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PostSubject: Hello from the Far East   Sat 10 Nov 2007, 17:52


Hello everybody.
I'm a mixed race male, currently teaching English out in Japan. My parents are both highly ranked in Karate, but I've only been doing MA (Aikido) for about 6 years. For 2 years I've also been studying a Koryu Bujutsu system which encompasses Kenjutsu, Iaijutsu, Jujutsu, Bojutsu and Sakkatsujutsu. I've a long way to go!

I'm a firm believer in the value and heritage of the TMAs. I understand, but don't always agree with the motives behind those who advocate and train in 'modern' combatives. What's the real difference between a pub brawl during Roman times and Now (outside of somebody getting you back with a 'shooter')?

I doubt I will be contributing much to the forums (mainly due to my relative inexperience in these matters), but I take great interest and wish you all the best!

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I've been visiting this site for a while now, but only decided to join when all the forums disappeared! What happened there?
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PostSubject: Re: Hello from the Far East   Sat 10 Nov 2007, 18:42

Welcome
While the study of TMA is a worthwhile pursuit for historical, art, fitness reasons, most are lacking when applied to self-protection.
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What's the real difference between a pub brawl during Roman times and Now
Probably little difference, but just because TMA are old doesn't mean they have preserved methods of winning that brawl. Most have become smothered with ritual, or, taken a sportive direction.
Most of the main proponents of Combatives have a background in TMA and have worked this out for themselves.
Anyway, again welcome, and hope you enjoy the discourse.

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PostSubject: Re: Hello from the Far East   Mon 12 Nov 2007, 17:39

Hello Mr Martin,
Thank you for your welcome and comments. I do agree largely with what you say. True some styles haven't preserved those techniques which would prove useful in a pub brawl, but on the other hand the new style may not be that effective either. I think it boils down to what an art claims it is or more importantly what the instructor of that art claims ( You probably wouldn't find a Kyudo or Tea Master advocating their respective disciplines as suitable for self-protection...though an arrow in the eye or a hot brew in the face.....oww!).
I do have a genuine interest in all forms of warfare- ancient and modern; armed and unarmed; western and eastern. I apolgize if my intro sounded a bit preachy. I know I have a long way to go before I'm any good in my chosen martial arts.
Fare ye well.
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PostSubject: Re: Hello from the Far East   Mon 12 Nov 2007, 18:13

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new style may not be that effective either
It's important to grasp that combatives is not a "style". To qute from something I wrote a while back:-
It’s worth taking a minute to discuss exactly what we mean by Combatives is not a martial art, like Karate, Ju-jutsu, Aikido, Wing Chun. Nor is it a “style”, like Shotokan or Goju-ryu. In articles and forum threads we sometimes see people discussing the merits of a style or system and comparing Combatives, as if it was another similar activity. It’s not. Combatives could be described as “what works in a fight”, and as such transcends such comparative discussions; because if you use this definition the question then becomes “what do you think is best for self protection, Wing Chun, or what works in a fight?” Do you see what I mean, it becomes a ridiculous question.
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It may be worth reading the whole of that article here to really understand what it is that we do, and discuss here.
All the best with your training

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